December 2003
Mod Roundtable



Question- With the approach of winter, it's bulking season. So what's everyone's favorite cycle for packing on the pounds?

Scorpio- My favorite bulker would be Test E, Deca, and dbol. Test for the obvious base, Deca wokrs well for me and is greaat for the joints. I know that people don't like dbol, however for me it's a great kickstart. I usually run it at:

Test e 1 gram a week 1-12
deca 500mgs a week 1-12
dbol 50mgs a day weeks 1-5 or 6
this depends on back pump pain.

midwtchamp- My theory on bulking is simple. First and foremost, you have to get the nutrients correct before you can even dream of putting the mass on. After all that is said an done then AAS come into play. I like kicking off my cycle w/test prop eod and slin. This gives a decent strength gain initially and w/the slin you get the wt up there quite quickly. As for the base of my bulking I like test e. and deca or test e. and eq together. Either of these ways are awesome for some serious mass. Throw some ldex from cysol in there and you are golden. Basically, my best bulkers look like this:

1-12 test e. 750 mg ew
1-4,11-14 test prop 200mg eod
1-12 deca or eq around 600mg ew
1-4, 8-12 slin 10 ius 2x daily or just post workout
Plan on throwing in IGF weeks 4-8 also since I was prone to gyno, I run ldex at .5mg eod and nolv @10 mg ed...

LA- I like test, tren and eq. For me bulking is fun for the first 2 weeks and then I start to feel fat. AS that tend to blow me up just make the situation all the worse. So my personal favorite would be to use stuff that just puts on the quality pounds. Test for size with a large dose of an anti-e, tren for size and strength and EQ to round things out and increase the appetite. Add some IGF and I'm good to go!

So my perfect bulker for me might look something like this:

Cyp 1-10 1000mg/wk
Prop 11 75/ed
Prop 12 100/ed
Tren 1-12 100mg/ed
Eq 1-10 600mg/wk
Aromasin 1/2 E3D IGF 40mcg for 25 days Wk 1-4, 9-12

PRAETORIAN- My aas of choice are always fast in and fast out...because my rule of thumb is health first and the majority of the time I prefer to be off! Thus prop and tren..a test for obvious reasons...fast in means you are growing the majority of time on, and fast out means you are returning to normal as quickly as possible aiding PCT. The test helps keep the boys happy and aids in growth etc as well as tren- the most effective aas -in my opinion, are a great combo..great strength, good mass, and little water retention etc. The arimidex helps keep aromatization to a minimum and the hcg keeps the horse in the barn so to speak, thus improving PCT dramatically. The igf is self explanatory and the b12 adds to appetite.

My aas plan is simple yet effective...my thoughts are the same as with training...get in, train hard, and get out asap! If you are off the majority of time your lipid profiles will be much more normal and you will be able to extend your competitive lifespan accordingly. BB is a lifestyle and if you are not in it for the long run you can do some serious damage...be healthy and happy and enjoy your life well after you are finished competing.

Thus, my favorite would be:

test prop 150-200 eod weeks 1-10
tren 150-200 eod weeks 1-10
Adrol 50-100 mg ed weeks 1-6
arimidex 1/2 tab eod
hcg 250-500 iu 2-3 days / week
*will be adding IGF-1 50 mcg/day 25 days for experimental purposes
vitamin b12 for appetite

radical_P- First I like to use test as my base. Depending on the individual and the experience they have with test should determine the doseage. I like to jump start with prop. Since it is a faster acting ester it helps to get the cycle started earlier and raise t levels in the body. I also like to add dbol for a jump start. Dbol does not give me the back pumps as some bros but I definately like the strength and feeling from it. My all time favorite is Deca. I like the way deca adds solid muscle as well as seems to help me with my joints when I go very heavy. I use ldex through the entire cycle to help keep my e levels low and reduce bloat. I always begin HCG at week 4 to help keep the boys up to size. It helps me when I come off a cycle to keep most of my gains.

So a good bulk cycle IMO would be

1-12 test e 1g
1-4 test prop 100mg eod
1-6 dbol 50mg ed
1-12 deca 400mg
1-12 ldex .5mg ed
4-12 HCG two concecutive days 500iu each day

Badgermoon- seem to have a tendancy to put on too much fat and water during bulkers when I use Decca. I used to do a Cyp/Decca stack with a Prop jump start. Maybe it is age related, I'm not sure. Now I am running Enanthate/Boldenone(Equipoise) and having a better result. The gains are comming slower,but I feel much leaner. I think it is due to switching from Decca to Eq. For me personnaly, I don't mind a slower weight gain if I can do it with less water retention and bf. I haven't checked yet, but I feel like my blood pressure is lower now too.

I also used to run Winstrol at the end of my cycle, but the joint pain became unbearable with too little result noticed. So, my ideal bulking cycle would be;

1000 mg/wk test E
500 mg/wk Eq
and I also run 500 IU HCG 2 days a week.

I am an HRT patient, so my off time consists of 250 mg/wk of test, either enanthate or cyprionate, whichever the clinic has the best price on at the time.

BLEED GREEN- Weeks 1-4/5 Test Prop 150 mg e/o/d

Weeks 1-16 Test E 500/750 mg wk
Weeks 1-16 Deca 400/500 mg week

Since it is a bulker outside of 400g day protein anythin goes, include 4 tbsp daily of flax/olive oil and shoot for @ 4000 total calories.

I try to keep it simple

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